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08/19/23 10:27 AM #7345    

 

Rex Booth

There's no such thing as a coincidence...?  yeah, right.

When Garrett was shot, his ranch was at that time in the Organ mountains near Las Cruces. It is true! William "Mac" Brazel was the nephew of Jesse Wayne Brazel.  Mac Brazel found the 'UFO" debris on the Foster Ranch near Corona in 1947.  Jessie Wayne Brazel confessed to shooting and killing  Pat Garrett in 1908. However, Wayne Brazel's testimony was inconsistant and some believed Garrett, was shot instead, by a hired killer. 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jesse_Wayne_Brazel

 


08/19/23 02:19 PM #7346    

 

Karla White (Dellner)

We moved to Roswell when I was in first grade and lived at the Nixon Hotel while our house was being built. The bellmen would entertain me with fabulous stories and songs while I waited for my parents to collect me. My Dad's office was in the hotel as well.

My dad and mom were friends with many of the folks you all have mentioned, and when I was lucky I got to have a "Shirley Temple" in the bar before I was sent to our room. I remember that painting behind the bar. Mom and Dad got to know John Meigs and was invited to the Hurd ranch a few times. We had a great Peter Hurd painting they got on one visit; however, we stored our furniture when we moved. When we went to get it, it was gone. We lost everything. That included the painting, our collection of Navajo rugs, etc. and our furniture.....

I still have rich memories of those times! I had a double credential in English and art and remember discovering  in an art class that Peter Hurds' wife was a friend of Georgia O'Keefe. As the story goes, the result was that she did not show/market her art in our area of the country, not wishing to compete. Their approach was somewhat similar.....Whew! That's a long walk down memory lane!


08/19/23 11:33 PM #7347    

 

Joe Treat

My step great grandfather, Carl Adamson is the one who lured Pat Garrett to his death.  He acted in concert with Jim Miller, a hired killer and married to a cousin of my great grandmother.  Carl was dying and confessed on his deathbed to my dad, a 4 or 5 year old kid.  He never forgot this information and confirmed it with his grandmother later when all the parties were gone.  Jim Miller was apparently a psychopathic killer who   Was eventually hung in Oklahoma for a killing there.  


08/20/23 06:53 AM #7348    

 

Paula Carl (Cowee Miller)

Wow, Karla and Joe!  What interesting information you've handed us. Thanks for sharing your histories with us. 


08/20/23 09:20 AM #7349    

 

Rex Booth

Joe,

I agree with your assessment of  Adamson setting the trap and Miller as the assassin.

Leon C. Metz is the author of "Pat Garrett: The Story of a Western Lawman". I found Metz’s work a most definitive biography of Garrett. Metz demonstrated a tireless research on other notables including 'outlaws' who later became a political power during that era. I was fortunate to have met Leon Metz in 2010 at the University of Texas Library in El Paso and was very impressed with his scope of work and exhaustive research. 

I thank both Karla and Joe for your interesting contributions!

 


08/20/23 09:39 AM #7350    

 

Sherry Hester (Trasp)

Thanks to all who have brought us all the different stories! 
I is so nice to hear from all of you!! Again Thanks!! 

 


08/20/23 02:17 PM #7351    

 

Saundra Bennett (Whiteside)

 

Yes, thank you John, Karla and Joe for your contributions!  Very interesting stories!  I have posted this before, but since Peter Hurd has been the topic lately, I'm going to do a repost!  Several years back (in the 80's) Iwas teaching a split 3rd/4th grade class at Chisum Elementsry.  During reading one of the vocabulary words was "original". The kids were making sentences using the word.  One little girl, Theresa,  made this sentence, "My mother has an original painting by Peter Hurd!"  I talked to her after class and she said it was "The Eve of St. John"  This piqued my interest because this is my favorite of all of his works.  I bought the print shortly after we married, and it has always held a special spot in our home!  Come to find out, the little girl in the painting was Theresa's mother!  She said her grandfather was out riding his horse that day, and Hurd decided to include it!     So, I actually met the girl in the painting at teacher parent meetings!  I still love andc treasure that painting!

 

Eve of St. John  - Peter Hurd

 

 


08/20/23 09:23 PM #7352    

 

Sherry Hester (Trasp)

OH Saundra I have that same picture!! LOVE IT!!
Well I don't have it now when I was down sizing I gave it 
to my daughter. I have another one I have not let go
of yet! It is "The Shepherd" 


Sorry I couldn't turn these!  (What?  Is this magic...?)

 

 


08/21/23 09:07 AM #7353    

 

Rex Booth

Thanks, Saundra and Sherry!

I also have the Eve of St. John and The Shepard. An interesting side note… The original "Shepherd" was done in charcoal.  A large 68" x 44" mural for the U.S. Post Office in Alamogordo, NM in 1938. At the bottom, it reads "Vin lluevo bendita, ven a acariciar la tierra sedienta", which means, "Come blessed rain, come to caress the thirsting earth."

 


08/21/23 10:06 AM #7354    

 

Rex Booth

John L,

You made mention of Pat Garrett's house in Roswell.  A few years ago, Bill Turley and I did some sleuthing after speaking to an old-timer who currently lives near Garrett's old home.  It is located about 4 miles east of Roswell close to the fork of the Berrendo Creek and Hondo River before it joins with the Pecos River. Garrett lived in this house when he and J.J Hagerman began constucting canals in the Pecos Valley during the late 1880's. 

 

 

 


08/21/23 10:35 AM #7355    

 

Patrick Riley

Rex, the old Garrett house... fascinating to see and know about!

Thanks for posting!


08/21/23 10:57 AM #7356    

 

John Landess

Pat Garrett's house looks to be in poor shape, considering it is a listed national historical building. The original part of the home was adobe, and it should be returned to original shape....no satellite dish! (Or propane tank)

Here is a bit of 'art' and  Pat Garrett history.... located in front of Chaves County Courthouse.....REX??  

John L, asked me to post this picture, but I think the caption on the plaque should read: “How the Roswell ‘fuzz’ might have made a hero out of a no good drinkin’ gamblin’ reprobate who bushwhacked William Bonney”. My dos centavos...

 

 


08/21/23 09:21 PM #7357    

 

Mike Curtis


08/22/23 08:40 AM #7358    

 

Rex Booth

 

I was in Los Angeles during that 'time period'! Most of the transition from beehives to hippy chicks was occurring in Santa Cruz mountains in Northern California.  Soooo I moved to Santa Cruz!  wink

 


08/22/23 09:43 AM #7359    

 

Saundra Bennett (Whiteside)

Sherry & Rex,  I have "the Shepard, also!

 

 

 


08/22/23 04:42 PM #7360    

 

Fred Miller

Rex, when you were in LA, were you ever in the Laurel Canyon area?  It was the birthplace of most of the music of that period.  All the writers and musicians lived in Laurel Canyon.

There was a 2 part docuseries a couple of years back.  I've watched it twice so far. Time to see it again...

(link with a trailer below)

https://www.mgmplus.com/series/laurel-canyon


08/22/23 06:30 PM #7361    

 

Rex Booth

Fred, 

In '67 the movement was just about starting. I met Harry Nillson (put de lime in de coconut) at a taveren in Laurel Canyon, around the same time. I think the Eagles got their start there as well. I worked for an LPG Corporation in LA and transferred to San Diego for better dinero in '68. Some really nice places were Topanga Canyon off Highway 1 near Malibu, Mulholland Drive, Hollywood Hills, and Tujunga Canyon near Sun City in the San Fernando Valley.  The views from Mullholland Drive were simply out of sight! 

 


08/23/23 09:41 AM #7362    

 

Sherry Hester (Trasp)

Thanks Rex For the Magic!! 


08/23/23 10:45 AM #7363    

 

Rex Booth

The Mystery of the Old Nickson Hotel Mural "The Encounter" (continues...)

Just spoke with Tommy W.  He has the answer we've been waiting for... If Tommy finds his password we may become enlightened about who bought the gunfight Mural behind the bar before the Nickson Hotel was de-constructed... Stay tuned to Radio station KRZY fo mo info!

 

 


08/23/23 11:03 AM #7364    

 

Rex Booth

 

Anyone remember this Drive-In?  Bet a wooden nickel,       Fred knows...

 

 

 


08/24/23 04:46 AM #7365    

 

Fred Miller

I remember a Foxy's drive-in in Clovis.  Don't remember much, tho. Spent most of my time at the Copper Penny...


08/24/23 10:42 AM #7366    

 

Rex Booth

Fred,

Figured you would know.  Looking at the cars, what year would you say the picture was taken?  A few of us RHS guys went to Portales for a football game. We went to Clovis after the game and hung out at Foxy's. Saw some cool hot rods! Copper Penny... was that a country honkey-tonk place?

The Posse... ha!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BwGDZ3tpeLQ

 


08/24/23 12:03 PM #7367    

 

John Landess

Foxy: circa 1953 or 1954.... Pontiac appears to be newest (center) though I can't make out car to right with connie kit..


08/24/23 01:49 PM #7368    

 

Patrick Riley

Fred, thanks very much for your recommendation of the Laurel Canyon documentary.

I just finished both parts. It's informative, entertaining and nostalgic. I too will be watching it again.

If you didn't see Fred's original post, here's the link:

https://www.mgmplus.com/series/laurel-canyon


08/24/23 06:28 PM #7369    

 

Rex Booth

 

John L,

Could be a 1954 Mercury w/ Continental Kit

 

 


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