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04/09/16 09:22 AM #3190    

 

Charline Lake

 

Bill Ward is home from the rehab center, still dealing with shingles and still thinking the recovery period from the lung surgery will be lengthy.  I assume he's still going in for dialysis 3 times a week.  Below is his Facebook profile photo from healthier times.  We can't wait until you're back in the pink, Billy!  We love you.

Bill R. Ward
1519 Kennedy Ave
Loveland, CO  80538
 

04/10/16 01:03 PM #3191    

 

Bob Gilmore

BILL good to see you back at the Hacienda.

Rex, some place in my brain cells say there was an artist, Peter Hurd, I think his home was the Adobe Hacienda and in Hondo along the creek south of the main highway,close to the "y"in the road .????

04/10/16 04:10 PM #3192    

 

Charline Lake

Hope you don't mind my jumping in.  Here's Peter Hurd's The Red Pickup.  Yes, I believe he lived where you said.


04/11/16 09:25 AM #3193    

 

Kay Schrimsher (Shields)

Dear Billy. Guess you can't catch a break . Glad you are home. Take care.  Hugs


04/11/16 09:54 AM #3194    

 

Diane Alley ((Webb))

I do not usually have much to say but I can help clarify the Hurd question. The Hurd ranch is located at San Patricio and is still operated as an active gallery and guest house by his son Michael. I remember going up there for Peter's wild polo matches. This field is still at the front of the property. He was quite a character.

The Adobe Hacienda is further up the valley wand has always been painted pink.

04/11/16 11:58 AM #3195    

 

Billy Turley

Billy,

Mi amigo,We Have know each for a long,long time and we've been down some dusty roads with a lot bumps and dips, Ya know I love you man ( in a manly way). Must be time to open up a can of " Whup Ass" as Bobby (BOO-Shay) The Waterboy would say and kick some ass on this disease.

Billy,you know you have a whole ton of folks in your corner. Lots of prayers and good thoughts.

Turley

 


04/12/16 05:40 PM #3196    

 

Tommy Weathers

Sounds right to me, Mr. Harvey! I have always loved the Hondo Valley.

Happy birthday Sanford.

Talked to Billy W. today and he sounds a lot better. He said something about the girl next door so he is getting better.

Looking forward to next summer's get together.


04/12/16 05:49 PM #3197    

 

Rex Booth

Harvey,  

You gave some pretty decent directions and landmarks.  Sure enough if you use Google maps and switch from map to "earth"  view, you can see the bridge on Hwy 70 crossing over that dry gulch.  Was able to see where you lived on the northwest side of the gulch and Louise Massey's house on the east side of the gulch just south of Hwy 70.  

Last year Tommy took some nice pictures of the dam at the bridge crossing Rio Hondo on Hwy 395.  Tommy posted them on this site.  So being the adventerous kind, and with the help of Google maps, it appears Massey's house is almost 0.2 mile west of 395 on the left (south) side of 70 heading towards Hondo. There is a 45 mph sign with flashing light on the right sight of 70.  Massey's home according to calculations would be right across the street.  Kit Carson would be sooooo proud!!

In 1920 - 1940 Milt Mabie was part owner of the Mabie-Lowery Hardware store at 113-115 North Main.  JImmy Wilmot's father took ownership of the store in the 1940's and renamed it Wilmot's Hardware.

It's interesting to note Lousie Massey back in the day with her fancy western clothes was dubbed the "Rhinestone Cowgirl"   Glen Campbell recorded the song "Rhinestone Cowboy in 1975.  Robert Redford expounded on the name as the Electric Hoss Man.... And Willie went into Reno looking for a Keno gal that could suck chrome off a trailer hitch.  Yee haw!!


04/12/16 10:03 PM #3198    

 

Billy Ward

 

I want to thank all of you for the great and kind words! I have a long way to go and just beginning my journey to get healthy again! From John and Lynn, to Charline, to Saundra, Kay and Jim (nice card), and to my old friend Billy Turley. I'll try to get on this site more frequently to let everyone know how I'm doing! Also thank you so much Pat you gave me a lot of confidence in getting this done. Mack and Alice, thanks to you guys for the beautiful card and to everyone for all the prayers I'm receiving! Don't believe I've ever felt so loved! Happy Birthday Sanford! Thanks for the phone call Tommy! Really made my day buddy! I forgot a very important person that has been with me from the get-go! The lady's name is Ann Stockton and I sure appreciate you keeping up with me Ann.

 


04/14/16 05:26 PM #3199    

 

Saundra Bennett (Whiteside)

Billy, it is great to hear from you on the forum!  We will look forward to your updates.  Hope life continues to get a little easier for you, and each day brings you more strength.  We are all sending good thoughts your way.  Take care!


04/15/16 12:52 PM #3200    

 

Rex Booth

Harvey,

Did you ever walk down that dry gulch to Rio Hondo and do any fishing?  Speaking of thousand legs.  Remember as a kid teasing horny toads and tarantula’s.  Don’t see any toads in Roswell anymore.  Tommy may have shot ‘em all with his Nigerian shooter.  What the hay-hay?

I’m surprised Turley hasn’t chimed-in about those Wilmot Hardware bastards.  Gilmore can expound sagebrush advice re:  horny toads and uhh files… 

In 4th grade at Washington Ave, Jimmy Wilmot told us his father Dan Wilmot was sitting outside his home when he and his wife saw a saucer flying overhead at a high rate of speed going north west towards  Stanton Friedman’s favorite hideout… Corona, NM.  The 1980’s a book called the Roswell Incident, Dan Wilmot was interviewed as a witness of the 1947 UFO incident.

Jimmy Wilmot  &  USAF Major Jesse Marcel...




04/16/16 08:17 AM #3201    

Darlene Kelsey (Corson)

I was in that class and have always wondered why I had not heard stories of the UFO crash until it became the "Roswell" thing. I never heard Jimmy talk about it. Guess I just wasn't one of the guys.


04/16/16 12:31 PM #3202    

 

Ray Marshall

Re Rex’s Major Marcel video-------Was that Jimmy Wilmot in the video telling about what his dad saw?

I recall Jimmy from NMSU Air Force ROTC program in the mid 60’s. Someone told me years ago that Jimmy became a  FAC  (Forward Air Control) pilot in the Air Force----a very dangerous job. They’re the guys that fly the slow, one man puddle jumpers and tell the fighter and bomber pilots where to place their bombs for best effect.

Does anyone know what happened to Jimmy?


04/17/16 08:43 AM #3203    

 

Bob Gilmore

Does anyone rember this party? John singing My Adobe Hacendia and Weathers talking to #25's older sister. (hope this works)


04/17/16 10:00 AM #3204    

 

Tommy Weathers

This was my bachelor party at the bar on First and Main. Sanford's uncle owned the bar and let us have the party there. It was 25's sister, old whats her name. I should have run off with her!


04/17/16 01:28 PM #3205    

 

Connie Swanson (Sampsell)

The rancher where the UFO crashed was my dad's client.  He told dad there was indeed something other worldly that crashed.  He said the  Air Force removed it fast but he saw things that have never been told to the public.


04/17/16 05:49 PM #3206    

 

Rex Booth

Ray,

Yes, that's Jimmy Wilmot in Roswell telling about what his Dad saw July 1947.  I lost track of Jimmy after he left Roswell.  Wonder if you could track him through the Air Force (FAC) pilot records?  When I was in grade school my Grand Dad would ask me if I saw any little green men on my way home from school.  Didn’t have a clue what he meant until years later in my teens. 

Mac Brazel the rancher who found the crash debris, was threatened by the air force military to retract his story with the Roswell Daily Record, Mac told a reporter while being escorted by two MP’s out of the RDR office… “I’ll tell you this much, they weren’t green… they were grey”.   One of the best sources of information on the subject is the book “Witness to Roswell”.  A well-documented research which included over 250 witnesses who were interviewed beginning in the 1980’s through the present.  One “theory” for a cover-up is the military knew they were out-gunned with the advanced technology they found at the ranch near Corona. Truman was President at the time and he probably nipped the story in the bud because he not want to see any panic in the US let alone the world.  General Ramey was the one who squashed it with the “weather balloon” story. 

Many witnesses who finally came forward did so after 30 years of silence being fearful to talk about the incident. Generals and military brass of the 40’s were dead and now posed no threat.  Several witnesses said the military had made them swear to secrecy.  One favorite technique used by Military Police was “we looked at your driver’s license, we know where you live, and we know you don’t want your bones turning white in the desert…

Connie is right.  The general public is not aware of 'leaked' documents like “Majestic 12”  a group of top officials who did research on UFO’s in the 1950’s.  The document was declared a fraud by the air force and FBI.  But Stanton Friedman the renowned nuclear physicist disagrees.  He like Injun Joe says:  The Sheep Tell Lies!!   frown

http://www.crystalinks.com/mj12.html

 

 


04/18/16 06:32 AM #3207    

 

Bob Gilmore

Weathers, you got it. I see Guy Knight and Roy Fulcher where are they now?
I found these pictures while looking at some old Roswell things including my High school report cards I will not be posting them.

04/18/16 09:38 AM #3208    

 

Gerald White

With regard to the "Roswell Incident", you might be interested in reading about it from the perspective of someone who was assigned to the base hospital in 1947.  It was written by Dr. Kent Kimball who was the chairman of my committee in graduate school at the University of Utah, 1972-74.  I did not know of Dr. Kimball's background except that he had retired from the Air Force and was a medical supply officer--he didn't know that I had graduated from RHS and he never mentioned being assigned to Walker.  I have the utmost respect for him as did the other USAF officers that knew him at the University of Utah.  Here's the link for the web site and his statement:

                       www,roswellfiles.com/witnesses/CaptKimball.htm

 

 


04/18/16 01:42 PM #3209    

 

Sanford Green

Gilmore - those pictures were at Tommy's bachelor party at my Uncle Jack's bar - Yucca Lounge.  Second picture down on right is my Uncle, Jack Sisk, Tommy, my Aunt Helen.  Can you send my those pictures to my email at sgreen@rclwiring.  I think I can identify a lot of folks if I can enlarge them.  I see Cherry Weathers in a number of them.  It was a great party!!


04/18/16 01:45 PM #3210    

 

Sanford Green

Tommy's friend, sister of #25 in the party pictures was a regular at the Yucca.  I worked there as bartendar when I was home from ENMU on holidays and weekends.  I discovered here in a romantic interlude with one of here regular friends in the alley behind the bar one night (not with Tommy) when taking out trash.  Looks like Earl Cox standing behind Guy Knight.


04/18/16 01:53 PM #3211    

 

Sanford Green

OK, why do aliens from outer space always hide?  Rather than land in secluded desert, why don't they land in the Rose Bowl where those of us in touch with reality can see and talk with them instead of the cast of characters they seem to like to hang around with?


04/18/16 02:19 PM #3212    

 

Rex Booth

While many certainly respect Captain Kimball’s right to his opinion including his recall of events in 1947 at the base hospital,  it does not diminish the strong testimony of more than 250 witnesses who have been interviewed regarding the Roswell Incident.   However, many do concur with Capt. Kimball’s analogy of Glenn Dennis who was an ambulance driver for Ballard’s Funeral Home in ‘47.  It’s common knowledge Glenn Dennis was capable of “spinning a good story” especially the alien description the so-called nurse in question gave Dennis.  The Dennis testimony has since been refuted by those other than Capt. Kimball.  

However one should stand in disagreement with Capt. Kimball’s statement the crash at Corona was a “cataclysmic” event.  Cataclysmic is an adverb and derivative of the word ‘Cataclysm’ (noun) which means: (1) any violent upheaval, especially one of a social or political nature  (2)  Physical geography, a sudden and violent action producing changes in the earth’s surface (3)  an extensive flood, deluge, or earthquake.  I do give Capt. Kimball credit for using the ‘colorful’ term cataclysmic as it  congers up the image of mass destruction and mayhem… when all evidence points rather to a ‘notable’ event in July 1947 which many researchers believe smacks of subterfusion and a cover up by the military and/or government. 

There appears to be an error in Capt. Kimball’s reasoning as he states:  According to Lt. Haut's testimony about the event, Colonel Blanchard ordered him to issue a press release announcing that a "flying disk" have been recovered. While I am sure this is how Lt. Haut remembers it, I would argue that this not the action that a responsible commander would have taken given the importance of such a discovery. He would have first reported the fact to his commander, General Ramey, at Hq, 8th Air Force. Also, if Colonel Blanchard had believed that this "finding" was of such magnitude it is highly unlikely that he would have delegated the responsibility of transporting the debris to others. He would probably done so himself. And he surely would have avoided any publicity until he knew what he was dealing with.  

But chronological events show base commander Colonel Blanchard did in fact, issue a press release regarding a “flying disk” before he contacted General Ramey.  General Ramey on the following day issued a retraction with pictures showing a simple weather balloon.  Jesse Marcel was a 1st Lieutenant in 1947 and later promoted to Major.  Lt. Marcel was top intelligence officer at the base who was sent to the crash site.  Lt. Marcel picked up debris and material, stopped enroute to the base at his house to show the debris to his wife and son.  The son a highly respected DDS later described an I-beam with hieroglyphic type writing on it.  Lt. Marcel was then flown to Fort Worth Army Air Field (later named Carswell AFB) to report to Brig. Gen. Roger Ramey.  A retraction in the Roswell Daily record was printed along with pictures of what appeared to be remnants of tin foil and balsam wood.  The perfect cover story… for almost 30 years,  when researchers starting digging for the truth.

There will be believers, skeptics, and those who have one foot on the platform and the other foot on the train… just in case the mother ship does show up.

Sanford,  

Many beleive an alien ship did appear at the Rose Bowl in 1947 !!  Illinois played UCLA Bruins.  Everyone thought it was part of the half-time show when a UFO hovered above the field and abducted the entire UCLA football team!!   Illinois won 45-14.   

 

 


04/19/16 12:37 PM #3213    

 

Rex Booth

Mack Ratliff contributed this Muscle Car Video.  

 

 

Here ya go Gilmore, Muscle Car museum is in "your backyard"!  Since you're a Vette man,  didn't Barney Durham drive a red '58 Vette in 1960?



 

Johnny A....  "Beam me up Scotty"!!!   smiley

 

 


04/19/16 02:31 PM #3214    

 

Bob Gilmore

Neat film it's.about 75-80 miles south.

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